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loreta
35 ( +1 | -1 )
Trippled pawns Wow! My first game with tripled paws here at GK - see board #3562259
SORRY - NO ANY COMMENTS - the game still in progress...
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Better let's just discuss trippled pawns problems or share own experiences...
Note: long ago there at GK was a thread on this subject but now I can't access it...
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usethepawn
misato
99 ( +1 | -1 )
three pawns on one file example: c4, c5, c6
Normally a great disadvantage because usually the neighbour-pawns (from the b- and d-file) have changed their files. The consequence is that this pawn-structure cannot defend itself, each of the three needs a piece to be defended. Another consequence is the immobilty of those three, a single token in front of them stops everything - even a little pawn!
If the opponent has equal material (and better pawn structure, i.e. normal) you are nearly two pawns down (technically) - or you have calculated that before and can use your open files to your advantage.
In endgames these disadvantages are growing and growing.
(I hope these explanations are general enough not to be seen as a comment on a running game - I did not look at the board!)
I somehow can recall a line in the Ruy Lopez (Spanish opening) where Black gets trippled pawns on the c-file very early. One from the exchange on c6 (from b7), and later the d-pawn has to capture to the right - uurggggh!
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usethepawn
usethepawn
5 ( +1 | -1 )
Thanks Misato now i get it.
But if its not good why...loreta are you making it out like it is?
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loreta
28 ( +1 | -1 )
IMHO All depends on position - in some situations it could be great weapon...
For examle with pawn at c4, c5, c6 controls near all b and d-files: b5-b7 and d5-d7. All these positions could be good places to put own pieces.
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Sorry, but I can't discuss the actual game in progress - I'd share my opinion after it'll be finished.
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brilliance
31 ( +1 | -1 )
Well.. 1. e4 e5
2. Nf3 Nc6
3. d4 exd4
4. Nxd4 Bc5
5. Be3 d6
6. Nxc6 bxc6
7. Bxc5 dxc5
has been played a few times, although never on a 2000+ level (according to chesslab) and this goes without saying.
As misato mentioned, it's mostly a great disadvantage.
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bob2
17 ( +1 | -1 )
Tony Miles Nicknamed tripped pawns the IPC (Irish Pawn Center).
Great example in the Book "Its only me" along with the usual Humourus notes from Tony
ccmcacollister
71 ( +1 | -1 )
I've seen em!~ Had a game vs Petroff once , with an early Nc3 and ...Nxc3 that ended up trippled c-[pawns vs an Expert on Leisure Linc. And became a draw. Quite a dicey game, having only activity to compensate, and equal pawns. but activity can overcome bad pawn structure if there's enough of it. On the other hand, I havent repeated the variation! :)
I've seen BL take tripled c-pawns in a Scandinavian, and was also + a pawn there. But WT's play against the pawns easily made up for the deficit. Yet BL did not have a difficult game from allowing it.
I've seen tripled e-pawns in a French, with the opponents pawns doubled on the e-file in between them! Or was it doubled. Definately some on e6,e5,e4 and e3. Crazy game there. :)
ionadowman
47 ( +1 | -1 )
I recall... ...an article Tony Miles wrote about the 'Irish Pawn Centre' - pawns tripled (note spelling) on the e-file. The game examples he gave seemed to suggest the formation practically conferred the win! It is a very weak formation, sure (and usually won't last long), but their owner will have open files to play in, and the pawns will control some potentially useful squares. So it ain't all down-side for tripled pawns!
Cheers,
Ion
sfinks
44 ( +1 | -1 )
Miss Triple Chess writer Tim Krabbe has recently nicknamed World Champion Antoaneta Stefanova "Miss Triple".
In one of her games, she first had a tripled Pawn on the d file, and later in the same game, she got a tripled Pawn on the g file. In another game, she had first a tripled Pawn on the f file, which was shifted in four moves to the g file!
-> www.xs4all.nl
buddie
17 ( +1 | -1 )
I won't show you the game, because it is still in progress, but I have a tripled pawn position.
I have pawns on g2, g3 and g5. Black has a pawn on g4 to make things more interesting !
gloomy_den
16 ( +1 | -1 )
Why nobody mentioned famous game Bronstein-Polugaevsky with tripled white pawns e2, e3, e5? It should be a great disadvantage, but white won. It was an marvelous game!
i_play_slowly
14 ( +1 | -1 )
We have tripled pawns at parrvert vs. i_play_slowly
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-> gameknot.com
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No advice please!
loreta
loreta
26 ( +1 | -1 )
WOW! WOW! WOW! My game reached new quality - both sides with tripled pawns! And that in the Rooks ending!
Look into board #3562259
No any comments on game, please - it's in the progress.
loreta
19 ( +1 | -1 )
Game finished It is at: board #3562259
So dicussions are possible on the game. Unfortinatly, I'm going to leave city - so my annotations will be later.
loreta
44 ( +1 | -1 )
Its text To keep all things in one place.... An annotation is coming...
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[Site "-> gameknot.com
[Date "2005.12.20"]
[White "loreta"]
[Black "bradny"]
[Result "1/2-1/2"]
[WhiteElo "1916"]
[BlackElo "1929"]
1. e4 e5 2. Nc3 Nf6 3. Bc4 Nc6 4. d3 Be7 5. f4 exf4
6. Bxf4 O-O 7. Nf3 d6 8. O-O Na5 9. Bb3 Nxb3 10. axb3 Re8
11. Qd2 c5 12. h3 b6 13. Qf2 h6 14. g4 Bb7 15. Bg3 Qd7
16. Nh4 Bd8 17. Nf5 Re6 18. Ne2 Kh7 19. Nf4 Re8 20. c4 a6
21. b4 Rf8 22. Nd5 Ne8 23. Qh2 Bxd5 24. exd5 cxb4 25. Nxd6 Bf6
26. Ne4 Bd4+ 27. Kh1 Nf6 28. Nxf6+ Bxf6 29. Be5 Bxe5 30. Qxe5 Kg8
31. b3 a5 32. Kg2 b5 33. c5 a4 34. c6 Rfe8 35. cxd7 Rxe5
36. Rfc1 Rf8 37. Rc5 axb3 38. Rb1 f5 39. d4 1/2-1/2
naamloos
25 ( +1 | -1 )
4 pawns, I once had 4 pawns on the c-file as black. What is that called? Me and my opponent admired the esthetic quality of this rare occurance for several days as none of us wanted to mess with these four very vulnerable pawns.
naamloos
misato