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rsimmons ♡ 34 ( +1 | -1 )
...c4 in exchange french? what do you think about the line.....
1.e4 e6 2.d4 d5 3.exd5 exd5 4.c4
I have used it in all my games against the french defense, even in the caro-kann defense. My friend thinks its a bad move because you end up with an isolated pawn, I on the other hand think its a good move because your opening up the game and challenging the center!
parrvert ♡ 5 ( +1 | -1 )
I think it's a good way to avoid the boring symmetrical lines.
buddy2 ♡ 32 ( +1 | -1 )
4. c4 My database says it wins 49%, based on 19 games. Whereas more common nc3 on move 3 wins 57% based on 3076 games. This is on a high level though. On a club level looks perfectly ok, despite isolated pawn. You have to like playing open positions with a lot of piece play.
mikhail_tal ♡ 6 ( +1 | -1 )
Don't Worry you're in good company. Josh Waitzkin has played that way.
mattafort ♡ 22 ( +1 | -1 )
Here is one that likes 4.c4 Here is an annotated game using 4. c4
in French exchange
lordnguyenvo ♡ 23 ( +1 | -1 )
thats an aggressive choice white pieces are developing in better position than the black pieces in exchange for the isolated pawn.
its 50-50 although i prefer white because black might not be survive until the endgame to take advantage of the d4 pawn.
caldazar ♡ 64 ( +1 | -1 )
It's alright Although I would imagine most French players would be happy to play into these lines since it gives Black relatively easy development. Note that the position is very different from the Panov Caro-Kann. In the Panov, Black has problems developing his bishops; he has no obviously good square for his light-squared bishop (...Bg4 would be nice, but White can hold off playing Nf3 until Black plays ...e6). On the other hand, he can't free his dark-squared bishop unless he blocks in his light-squared one with ...e6. In the French Exchange with 4.c4, Black has no such development issues.
atrifix ♡ 30 ( +1 | -1 )
Also a big difference between French Exchange with 4. c4 and the Panov is that White often gets a queenside majority in the Panov, and the move c4-c5 can be very dangerous. Since the pawn structure is relatively symmetrical in the French Exchange, c4-c5 loses a lot of bite and the variation in general tends to be more drawish.
nelsonnewman ♡ 53 ( +1 | -1 )
Winawer and Tarrasch is better statistically than this variation. Just for fun, I ran an opening report in Chessbase 8. Based on the 1200+ games I found, Black wins 52% of the time
in positions arising from 4....Nf6, which seems to be the most solid reply.

This position was popularized, of course, by Josh Waitskin in the Chessmaster 6000-7000-8000 series.

However, statistically, White fares much better if he uses the main line Winawer or the Tarrasch variation against the French.

Just some food for thought.. :-)

squijum ♡ 3 ( +1 | -1 )
I play 4. c4 just to bug my opponent.
kremator ♡ 53 ( +1 | -1 )
It's not the line Often many lines have bad winning percentages because people don't take them seriously. I bet most of there games were played by lower rated players against higher rated as a shock weapon or because the opponent isn't very good in open games. Shock weapons don't always work and that is reflected in the score. Look at the Benoni did you see the pathetic black winning percentage?? I know it isn't that bad in reality for black to have a winning percentage that is half of white's!!
soikins ♡ 73 ( +1 | -1 )
3. c4 It's an ok move, rather recent, so you have a good chance to throw your opponent out of theory. I play french with black and have had some problems against this move (a friend of mine often uses it against me), white might get a good attack on the kingside.
I think this move is good in blitz, wher you need to make your opponent think, make decisions, in blitz it's better to attack, c4 can provide the chance for an attack on the black king. But in longer controll, especially in correspondence, you should probably choose a more classical way of fighting against french. The isolani will be a problem in the long run, but your tactical threats on the kingside might no work.
spijker ♡ 2 ( +1 | -1 )
c4 Nice, but not so good:
soikins ♡ 15 ( +1 | -1 )
Sorry. My mistake. I meant 4. c4.
Although I've seen c4 on the 2nd and third moves too. Anyway it is more a transposition. Thought if played on the third move it is an interesting gambit.
kremator ♡ 4 ( +1 | -1 )
spijker He you meant

1.e4 e6 2.d4 d5 3.exd5 exd5 4.c4 right?
spijker ♡ 6 ( +1 | -1 )
3.c4?! My message was correct,
I meant 3. c4?!
Other move-order:
kremator ♡ 58 ( +1 | -1 )
Other move order 1.e4 e6
2.d4 c5!?

It's fun to do. Shocks ppl. The GMs say that after 3. d5! white gets a slight edge but who cares. At our level it's really nothing to worry about. Also even grandmasters employ inferior or strange lines. Kasparov has been known to play the Evan's Gambit, and in the Ponomariov - Ivanchuk "championship" match Ivanchuk lost with the two knights alekhine. You know.. the eh
1. e4 nf6 2. e5 nd5 d4 3. d6 nf3 4. Nc6?!

I've won quite a few games with that one and am still going to continue playing that variation until I no longer have the choice to. Even if it is an inferior line it really doesn't make a difference here.
soikins ♡ 22 ( +1 | -1 )
kremator yes, that's what I meant.
About: e4 e5, d4 c5 I don't know if that shocks anyone, cause it is very simple to transpose to Sicilian, so it is not a big shock, if one doesn't want to fight in an unknown position after 3. d5 he can just play 3. Nf3